let me start tonight with this. once upon time, the republican party ran presidential candidates who could carry even massachusetts. think eisenhower, think ronald reagan. lately, they can't get much closer to the northeast than ohio. not even that, the last two times, it's lots of people living in it that's become foreign territory to the gop. last night, as i watched the united states house of representatives vote on aid for hurricane sandy economic relief, i was reminded what's happened to the gop. and since, it's the fight against aid for people. last night, it was aid for hurricane victims living in the northeast. does anyone think it will stop there? the mood of the guns over people policies increasingly vote against people. why? i cannot figure. to paraphrase an old saying, guns don't vote, people do.

i have a feeling there are more americans with strong feelings about those first graders up in connecticut than they do for their wild bunch out there worried about the black helicopter sweeping down on their front lawns. we've seen the horror of crazed killers with semi-automatic weapons armed with big-capacity clips. we still haven't caught site of those darn helicopters. that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. "politics nation" with al sharpton starts right now. >> thanks, chris. and thanks to you for tuning in. tonight's lead? a day of history on gun safety. and an ugly reaction from the right wing. today, president obama proposed the boldest, most sweeping changes in gun laws since the assassinations of martin luther king and robert kennedy. 23 executive actions now signed and are called for a new law that would include universal background checks and a ban on

assault weapons and high-can pa -- high-capacity ammunitions. it's a chance for all americans to come together. already, we're hearing the same old hysterical voices on the right. senator marco rubio saying the president is abusing his power. the governor of mississippi claiming the president is anti-constitutional and vowing to pass a state law overriding the white house. rush limbaugh, accusing the president of using kids as human shields. but the lowest of the low was that video put out by the nra. dragging the president's children into the debate. >> are the president's kids more important than yours? and why is he skeptble about putting armed security in our schools when his kids are

prikted by armed guards at their school? >> the nra really can't understand why the president's children received protection? the white house called that video repugnant and cowardly. the nra just doesn't understand how the tragedy at sandy hook changed america. today, on capital hill, the school superintendent moved people to tears as she talked about the terrible moments after the shooting. >> the true horror came as tharnts came running to their children. we began to realize we didn't have enough children. there were parents without children. >> parents without children. that's what we're talking about. and that's why the president took bold, decisive action today.

but there's a big fight ahead. congress must act and the president knows that won't happen unless we all act first. >> this will not happen unless the american people demand it. if parntss and teachers, police officers and pastors, if hunters and sportsman if responsible gun owners stand up and say enough, we've suffered too much pain to allow this to continue, then change will come. that's what it's going to take. >> change will come, but only if we, the people, make it happen. we, the people of newtown, connecticut. we, the people of chicago. of aurora, of tucson, of columbine. this change starts today.

joining me now is congressman jim moran, democrat from virginia and joan walsh, editor at large of salon.com and an msnbc political analyst. she has a new article out today. about that nra video. thanks for coming on the show. >> good to be with you. >> congressman, let me go to you first. is the congress ready to take action and override the nra? >> if this is going to happen, it's going to happen from the bottom up. that's what a democracy is all about. that's why we elect a president. to lead. and this president showed us again why those of us who worked so hard to get them elected are so proud of his leadership. a president is elected to show the courage that others won't. to stand up to people who intimidate others. you know, to stand, to face down

the bullies in our society so as to protect the innocent and the vauler inble. >> now, you said must come from the bottom up, congressman, what do you mean by that? >> well, what i mean is there are 300 of my colleagues in the house who have an a rating from the nra. i think most of them are, frankly, intimidated by the nra because they know that the nra responds not so much to its membership, but to the manufacturers, the people who pay the executive's salaries. and the reason they're intimidated is that the nra has shown that it will spend unlimited amounts of money in their district, whether to defeat them in a primary or a general election, it will come from the outside and they will send out what oftentimes is sal

lashs. they will resort to any tactics, the same kind of tactics we see in the ad against the president using against the president's own children. that's what the nra does. and that's why so many members of congress, frankly, are intimidated, in my view. we look at the president proposals, gun control proposals, universal background checks, high capacity magazine limit. assault weapons ban, slen strengthening penalties for trafficking. all of these show the overwhelming majority of people are with. is it really a risk for members of congress to say this time we've got to go not only with what is right, not only with what our heart tells us is the

safest for our families. >> i really apreepreciate the congressman's candor. he really is interacting with what the situation has been until recently. they have been formidable. people do live in fear or have lived in fear of them. however, they've been really ineffective in the last few cycles, particularly in 2012. i'm not in a swing state, but i've spent some time in wisconsin and just seeing the ads, i was really quite fearful and they lost horribly in wisconsin. and we saw that across the country. and certainly, with that horrible ad that they released last night, you really see the effects of living in the fever swamp of anti-obama hatred and paranoia.

they don't understand the protectiveness and love that people have for sascha and malea. and that kind of reaction carries the day. it really doesn't anymore. but they're not done yet. so i think congressman moran is right to talk about the past. the prent might be changing in the future. >> i think one of the things that is changing the president, i watched today as the president talked about gracie mcdonald. a 7-year-old whof was killed in newtown. her parents were sitting there in the front as the president made the announcement today. and the president talked about meeting them. watch this. >> chris, her father, gave me one of her paintings. and i hung it in my private study just off the oval office. and every time i look at that painting, i think about grace. and i think about the life that

she lived. and the life that lay ahead of her. and, most of all, i think about how when it comes to protecting the most vulnerable among us, we must act now. for grace. >> see, i think newtown and i think the reaction of these kids, really, is what will energize a bottom-up movement, as you referred to, congressman. but even beyond that, when i look at the fact that the president came with some executive orders today that he doesn't need congress for. he's strengthened background checks, new tracking on guns used in crimes, new research on gun violence. national safe gun ownership campaign. these he did with executive orders that he does not have to depend on your colleagues, congressman moran. >> that's right. and he's absolutely right to do those things. and i trust that he's going to, you know, to push the previous

areas of resis tense tance as fe can. he's committed to this. i do worry. i'd love to think joan is right. clearly we had a very successful election in november. i worry a bit, though, about 2014 when we don't have the president at the top of the ticket. we have a disproportionately higher number of older white guys and, frankly, being one of those types, we're the most insecure component of our society. as far as i'm concerned, we're much the problem with these kinds of things. but, you know, we can overcome this. this is a democracy. and he's going to -- i think he's going to mobilize his base. he's going to ask everyone who worked so hard to get him elected now to pass the legislation that is most important for our children and our future and given the fact

that he is as committed as he is, you know, it's entirely possible that democracy will succeed, that we'll get this kind of legislation through or at least to feed a sufficient number of members who have shown the fact that they're sbim dated by the n rerks a. . >> well, let me say this, joe, also, a lot of it is the ugliness that we are seeing from the other side. i think that, clearly, the over-reaching, the over-stepping and the insensitivity has, frankly, offended and insulted a lot of americans. >> absolutely, reverend al. and i just want to say to congressman moran, there are a lot of terrific older white guys out there. you're one of them. the vice president is another one. you know, we'll be there for you. and i think every time we talk, reverend al, i know that

practically every show you're going to bring up how important it is for people to turn up in 2014 the way they did in 2012 because it's true. when we have the electorate that turned out in november our issues win because, as you said before on gun violence, on everything, the american people are with us. we've just got to get the turnout there. >> everybody's got to come out. >> everybody's got to vote. and that's really true on this issue. >> i'm going to have to leave it there, congressman jim moran and joan walsh, thank you both for your time tonight. >> thank you. >> thank you, al. >> coming up, the nra's offensive video. could it be the tipping point in the gun debate? we'll talk with congressman keith ellison about that. plus, the gop's big plan to fix the party. they're holding classes on how to talk to women and minorities. i'm not kidding. >> and as the president gears up for his inauguration, new

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politicians and special interests all on an assault on liberty. not because that's true, but because they want to gin up fear or higher ratings or revenue for themselves. >> ginning up fear for higher ratings or revenue. that's the nra playbook. but where are the boundaries. with its new ad, it seems the nra knows no boundaries. >> are the president's kids more important than yours? then why is he skeptical about putting armed security in our schools when his kids are protected by armed guards at their school? >> dragging the president's daughters into the fight. this is beyond the line. the nra clearly doesn't even know where the line is.

the ad comes a day after a new shooting video game was released for 12-year-olds. it's listed as an official nra-licensed product. the nra has not confirmed or denied the game is theirs. how can any of the nra people look at themselves in the mirror at night? joining me now is congressman keith ellison, democrat from minnesota. he's co-chairman of the progressive caucus. thank you for coming on the show tonight, congressman. >> yes, sir, reverend sharpton, good to be with you. >> now, this ad from the nra, what needs to be done about this. >> well, i want them to show it because i think the more american people see it, the more offended they will be by it. they will know that this is a group of unscrupulous people who know no low point. i mean, the bottom line is the nra doesn't really represent gun owners. it does not represent gun

owners. it represents gunman ewe factturers. and they don't want to have any reasonable restrictions on guns because every clip, every high-capacity slip that's sold, prapgs one of their people are selling it. every accessory, gun, ar-15, bush master, one of their people are selling it. so they're in the business of supporting people who traffic in-depth. and so they don't want to prevent that or they don't want anyone to even curtail that. >> so this is not about they're protecting people that feel they need to engage in self defense for their families or about hunters? you're saying this is the reason why everything has to stay the way it is and nothing can be negotiated. is it really working for the guys that are making the money, the manufacturers and any of the products that are threatened, in many ways, threaten their profits. this has nothing to do with regular people.

even the gun owners are victimized here? >> right, if you're a gun owner, you're in no jeopardy of losing your gun or having it taken away. but if you're making munl selling high-capacity clips, then you may have a problem. the vast numbers of american people, including gun owners, are in favor of gun safety prevention. it's only these lunatics who don't want to have any limits on anything. and if you notice, al, whenever they promote a solution, armed guards in every school in america, it always circles back to them having mr guns out there. selling more guns. if there were armed guards in every school, they'd have more armed guards buying guns. >> and more bullets and the government would have to pay the money for it. we would be buying it. >> right. so it all ends up back in their pocket. that pursuit of more and more and more. >> but the vile thing of going

and using the president's daughters, i mean, there's always you and i have been in political public protest life for a long time. but you don't do this. it's as low and vile as you can get. you hear people saying we're not going to obey the law. we're going back to states' rights now where they're trying to nullify federal law. we're not going to listen to a presidential executive order. >> well, when was the last two times you heard that? one, during a civil war and two, during the fight to end segregation. so this is the psychology of the people we're talking about. they don't, you know, they put their guns before the best interest of people. but let me just tell you, al, they're not going down as far as they're going to go. the fact is they're really just getting started.

you will see just an avalanche of fear and negativity that's g going to be coming from them. they're going to fight to keep that money train choo chooing down the line. >> well, i don't doubt that at all. we searched high and low and we could only find one person, and he's a former speech writer for george w. bush that everyone denounced it. one person under the republican leadership, the shame is they're doing this in the silence of real leadership being shown by those republicans that would say wait a minute, some things are above and beyond what is decent. >> i think scarborough said it wrong. >> but scarborough is not a leader in the party. sc scarborough has gone out there and shown some courage.

>> i hope some moderate republicans like him, i mean, law enforcement, gun owners, moderate republicans, other folks who, you know, really are putting people first, i think we are the overwhelming majority. but we've got to keep our eye on the ball. just like you say all of the time, rev. you cannot go sleep on these people. as soon as you do, they're going to push their agenda. >> and it's a way, way out -- way, way out agenda. any time you have keith ellison and al sharpton praising joe scarborough, you know how far they've gone. congressman, thank you for joining us. >> thank you, reverend. >> coming up, the house republicans are packing up the car and heading out for a little road trip. a time for a little bonding, a little planning. it's really a road to nowhere. we'll explain. and the impeachment caucus is growing.

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tea party rally. they must feel right at home. republicans will partake in seminars to help chart their party's future, delving into questions that plagued the gop in modern times like what happened? where are we now? who speaks for the middle class? and they'll study species unknown to republicans in a seminar titled successful communications with minorities and women. minorities and women? no strange and frightening creatures. i hear many of them opened in the past election. the goal of this gop retreat is apparently to bring the party together. but it turns out that on everything from debt ceiling to sandy relief, they're just cracking up. joining me now is wes moore.

he's author of the book the other wes moore. thanks to boet of you for being here tonight. >> great to be here. >> nia, isn't it going to take more than a few classes at a two-day retreat to fix what's wrong with the gop? >> i think that's probably right. if you just look back at what has happened so far not only in the 2012 election, but in this last fiscal cliff deal, we know that there's a lot of distension in boehner's ranks. so here we are trying to figure out a way forward. there's a lot of disagreement about spending cuts and what they want to fight over. is it debt ceiling, is it sequestration, is it the resolution later in march? they could use that bell to call them to order there but it's hard to think that they could find a path. you've got on the one hand, a lot of distension in the rarngs there. but, also, just public opinion seems to be stacked against them. they're on the wrong side of so many issues.

they seem to be wanting to plot a course right in the near term. but i think on the other hand, if you look at what democrats are doing, they're trying to chart a course that looks more like where america is more broadly. of course it would put them in good standing for 2014 and 2016. >> now, wes, when we look at the fact that they seem to be further and further away. committee reports that many republicans scoff at the idea of a debt ceiling disaster. and it reads, let me read this to you, to these conservatives, hitting the debt ceiling is no armageddon and the idea of default is just a scare tactic. and they claim not to be frightened. i mean, we could have different

opinions, but we can't have different facts. the debt ceiling is not there now? >> even if you don't want to listen to the president, like, listen to fitch and moodies and all the rating agencies who say this is not an economic issue. this is a political crisis that the united states is going through right now. and the thing about this, rev, is that this is a policy without a constituency. who backs this? who backs the idea to say basically, we're going to spend and spend and spend. and when the bills come up, we're not going to debate how we're going to spend in the future. if you want to have a larger conversation about spending, then we can have a larger conversation about spending. the moment we confuse them is when we start damaging the long term prospects of where this country can be economically. >> but nia, in fairness, there have been, at least in this area, some prominent republicans

that are starting to point out that this is a little too far up here. senator murkowski says if you incur an obligation, you have the responsibility to pay for that. and that's very responsible. and a spokeswoman relayed this message from senator susan collins of maine saying the debt ceiling is going to have to be raised. even the coch brothers don't want to allow debt default. the president of americans for prosperity says they're advising members of congress. focusing on the debt ceiling makes the message more difficult. so we're starting to see some kind of responsible leadership. this is just going too far. >> and newt gingrich agrees with that sentiment, as well. i think what you're going to see

is more folks, you know, a chamber of commerce republicans, folks from the business community i think are really going to start speaking up as this debt ceiling starts to loom closer in the middle of february. when it really reaches its limit, you'll have some pressure from the corporate community really bearing down on the house gop to get something done. so i think that's one of the things that's going to happen. it could be that they delay these spending cuts in talking about them either around the sequestration or around the time when they have to renew the continueing resolution to fund the government. this is what they've been talking about, spending cuts. but coupling it with the debt ceiling just seems to be a non-starter. >> it's just a non-starter and a nons sense kal notion. but let me come back to you for one quick second, wes. it's gotten so bad, i mean, it's

gotten so out of hand until they want to change the brand now. so tea partiers are trying to actually change their name because the brand has gotten so bad. salon reports that the south florida tea party has announced that it will change its name to the national liberty federation siting concerns about the branding and negative associations with the term tea party. >> well, you know, it's funny. they do have a branding problem. but changing the name ain't fixing it. the branding problem comes back to the policies that you cannot separate from whether you call it one name or whether you call it another name, whether you have one face in charge or another face in charge or whether that face looks different from the people who were in charge before. and as of right now, the only thing looking at it are obstructionists. and they will take notice if they notice that every single major debate that comes up, if the president says the sky is blue and someone says no, it is

not, it is red. >> all right, we'll have to leave it there. thank you for your time tonight. >> coming up, you know the president must be doing pretty well. some of the gop are calling this impeachment. hey, republicans, don't you get it? he's just not that into you. that's next. this is "politics nation" on msnbc. push push [ woman ] too weak. wears off. [ female announcer ] stop searching and start repairing. eucerin professional repair moisturizes while actually repairing very dry skin. the end of trial and error has arrived. try a free sample at eucerinus.com.

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. i'd like to show everyone a number. here it is. 55. that's president obama's approval rating heading into his term. it's the highest it's been since november, 2009, aside from the killing of bin hadden. need another? how about 19. that's the approval rating of congress, matching its lowest point in any polls conducted by

the washington post since 1975. those are two numbers we need to keep in mind heading into president obama's second inauguration on monday. yes, there's a lot on his agenda this term. but let's remember. he withstood this. >> you are not allowed to be a president if you're not born in this country. he may not have been born in this country. >> but it's not an american administration. it is a european, socialist administration. >> what people saw last night, i think, was a president that revealed his incompetence, how lazy and detached he is. >> the president was denied and dehumanized. labeled a muslim. one luney web site called him a muslim gay kenyon. that actually happened. but despite all the derangement, he's come up on top and he's ready for the second term fights.

joining me now is patricia murphy, editor of jane politics and contributor for the daily beast. and joe ma dayson, nationally syndicated radio host of sirius xm's, the power. thank you both for joining me tonight. >> thank you. >> joe, resilience is a good word to describe president obama. what can we expect from him and what will he face in his second time around. >> i think what we can expect from him is the type of meetings that he does. while the rest of washington is playing checkers, move-by-move, you know, i get the impression that president obama plays chest. he is a long-range thinker, which is why members of congress can't keep up with him. he's thinking far ahead of them

and that's why they are far behind. now, what can you expect? you can expect that they're going to do the same thing. now, let's take for example, i think down in, i believe it was north carolina, a tea party had a conference or a convention. one of the best-selling memorabilias was a t-shirt that depicted the president, once again, as a witch doctor. i was on -- i was in fort wayne, indiana. i was on a show with a conservative talk show host who said that the president was going to use one of the executive orders to undo the second amendment. i'm sitting there thinking to mooigs how can you do that? not only is it not logical and now what are you finding?

now they're not talking about birther, now they're not talking about him being a muslim. now they're saying we're going to impeach him and no one has said what the crime is. let's zero in on that. the attrition caucus is growing. right wingers on gun control, so the numbers are growing. take a listen on this. >> we want all tools available to use including that impeachment. >> indeed, if he tried to override the amendment in anyway, i believe it would be an impeachable offense. >> it's just been staggering. the american revolution was all about fighting such a monarchy. >> he continues, could that build up to make a case for possible impeachment?

>> all options should be on the table. >> how is impeachment talking about this? i mean, what is even remotely impeachable about this? >> well, there's nothing impeachable about this, which is why these voices calling for his impeachment are just further narrowing the appeal to the republican party. you said that despite all of the craziness of the election, i would say that because of all of the craziness on the right, that is why the president won. this whole block of moderate voters just looking for a side that's going to solve their problems and really deal with the seriousness of the problems with serious solutions, the republicans did not put that forward in anyway in 2012 and that's why the president got reelected. and when he's starting now to take on issues, big issues, he's not playing small ball. he's going after taxes, gun control, immigration, all issues

that democrats have really not had the courage to take on. >> he's going with a really big hand. just 17% of republicans do. but, really, given these numbers, joe, he can go around some of these far right wingers. he has enough support without caving into them. >> don't forget this, and they eluded to it today, that election apparatus, which he now doesn't have to use to get elected because he'll never run for public office, again, i assume. but he can now use it for public opinion. i know what you're going to be doing tomorrow on your radio show and that is we're going to be using our apparatus to get this gun control measures through and put the pressure on

the united states congress. and i think we'll be very successful at that. but his apparatus is in place. and that's something that the united states congress doesn't have. >> and, patricia, not only his apparatus, but the fact that he's been able to succumb and to even rise above and go and advance and thrive has given him a lot of confidence. when you look at the new york times interview of president obama, about the first term, valerie jalor has this about getting health reform passed after scott broun's victory. phil shairo said mr. president, unless you're feeling lucky, i don't know what the third way is. so the president gets up from his chair and he walks over and he looks out the window. and he says, phil, where are

you? phil says i'm in the oval office. phil says what's my name? president obama. of course i'm feeling lucky. when you step back and think about it, what he's done and how unlikely it was and how unlikely it is, how do you tell him what can't be done? >> well, you have to take all of that together and look at what happened in the last election. not only did he come in with 51% of the vote, he also increased his majorities in the house and senate. so he's going to be able to take that through to actually getting some of these things passed. and, really, you've seen in his demeanor, really, since the election, you've seen him confident and show the reason for his confidence more than twice as many americans believe in him than believe in the house republican majority that's trying to stop him. so you really don't even need to believe in him. you just need to know the math.

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i want to close tonight by talking about two children. one, on the left. 7-year-old heaven sutton. on the right, 6-year-old no noah posner. in june, heaven was selling candy outside her family's home in chicago. when she was fatally shot in the back by a stray bullet. in december, noah was in his first grade classroom at sandy hook elementary school. when he was killed by a deranged gunman. today, president obama said it's time for all of us to stop these tragedies. >> this will not happen unless the american people demand it.